the biography "mandela's way." he also wrote mandela's obituary for "time" magazine. be also have poet yvette christianse. he's at barnard college. but first mandela reflects on his life as a grandfather in our 1993 interview from our pbs program. do you love your country more than you love anything? >> well, that is difficult. i've got a family and i've got children. >> but it's almost like you're married to your country and destiny has made this marriage and you have no choice. >> it's inconceivable for me to love anybody more than my children and my grandchildren. i've got a grandson who will turn 4 in september. i asked him on your birthday, what do you want me to buy for you? he said, i want a motor car. i said, let's go to the shops. we went. he was holding my hand, my left hand. and we went into the shop which sells model cars. they shook my hand. now, he left and came to grab this hand. i said to him, can you hold this hand, he said, no, he held this hand because he saw me greeting other people with this ha